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#1 maxmirot

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Posted 28 January 2016 - 07:52 PM

I have been testing Sequence Generator Pro. I have used most automation programs  I am impressed so far.

 

 

What I like about it is you connect to devices directly inside the program ( scope, camera, plate solves, rotator, dome ). 

 

 

It is built as control program in addition to automation and other features. You don't have to go out side the program to find, focus, center, rotator slew etc. manually. you don't have to buy anything but the program to make it work. Most dependent software are  free such as PHD2 guiding. Plate solving using pinpoint is helpful but it also uses two free plate solve methods. It quite inexpensive at 95.00 USD

 

I would great the find another automation package that does MLPT. Has anyone else tried using it ?

The developers are quite active writing code. We need would need a few people to ask them to add MLPT to have them consider it.

 

 

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#2 lukepower

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Posted 03 February 2016 - 01:07 PM

Hi Max,

 

don't get me wrong, but MLPT looks to mee to be a proprietary solution for Autoslew. It would be fairly easy to implement (I guess), even if there are no official API documents describing the correct way to do so. For sure it would be very interesting :)


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#3 Waldemar

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Posted 03 February 2016 - 02:38 PM

What can SGP do that Sequence can not?


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#4 maxmirot

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 05:10 PM

Waldemar,

 

It controls a much wider array of devices, rotators, flat boxes etc than Sequence.  All the device controls integrated in the program.

 

You will have to try it. It is nothing like using CCDAP5, ACP or other programs. It is much easier to operate both manually and automatically.

The tools and features are much better than Sequence with the exception of focus.  The framing and mosaic wizard is the best for planning an image. Sequence has nothing like this. See YouTube for a video.  It explains it much better than I can. They have several people actively developing the software. They are adding improvements all the time. The one negative is the focus tool is quite different and does not work well with scope having large central obstructions. This needs to be fixed. After trying all the automation programs out there, this is my favorite so far.

 

As to Luke's point, I thought Dr. Keller asked John Smith of CCDAP5 but he did not have time or wanted $$.



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Posted 04 February 2016 - 08:05 PM

Thak you for your explanation, Max!

I will check it out and see if I can get a trial version.

 

Regards,

Waldemar


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Posted 02 March 2016 - 07:11 PM

I used SGP before I got ASA mount. I really liked it,lots of possibilities - BUT - one major flaw: it was multithreaded without proper handling of errors in that multithreaded environment. If I got an usb-error (I suppose it was) with camera or wheel the whole thing froce. Very annoying.

 

If they fixed that problem and sequence was adapted to not only use maximDL/PinPoint (LONG overdue!) I would use it again.

 

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Posted 04 March 2016 - 06:57 AM

Mlpt is something very easy to make usable from other programs, but asa wont do it. I reverted to autoguiding and am running fine now

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#8 maxmirot

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 05:43 PM

I used SGP before I got ASA mount. I really liked it,lots of possibilities - BUT - one major flaw: it was multithreaded without proper handling of errors in that multithreaded environment. If I got an usb-error (I suppose it was) with camera or wheel the whole thing froce. Very annoying.

 

If they fixed that problem and sequence was adapted to not only use maximDL/PinPoint (LONG overdue!) I would use it again.

 

pelle

Interesting. I wonder if thing have changed with SGP?

My devices ASA DDM85, FLI proline, FLI CFW,  Gemini optec rotator focuser, Lesve dome etc have been perfect with USB ( no errors).

 

Max



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Posted 05 March 2016 - 05:49 PM

Mlpt is something very easy to make usable from other programs, but asa wont do it. I reverted to autoguiding and am running fine now

 

Didn't Dr. Keller say that he approached CCD Autoplot but they wanted some money to implement it.

 

I agree ASA needs to have more resources for software development open source is one route. Even then it helpd to have a programmer communicate with the beta community. Right now that interchange is limited.

 

Max

 

The other is to hire additional help. May be new emplyee's the could revise documentation.



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Posted 05 March 2016 - 07:21 PM

Max,

Yes he said that but it never made sense. Most automation softwares can execute an arbitrary script before imaging, and this script could simply make an mlpt run, and load it into autoslew. Even if the Ccdsoft guys would not do it, in ccdcommander and acp it would be fairly easy.

And hell, it would be so damn easy to implement into sequence, just add a start parameter so you could do it like

Sequencer.exe -domlpt

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#11 maxmirot

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Posted 07 March 2016 - 09:01 PM

Is scripting available  for MLPT.? I have not heard of this.

 

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#12 lukepower

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Posted 07 March 2016 - 11:48 PM

It was a feature i asked for...:)

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#13 maxmirot

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Posted 13 July 2016 - 07:11 PM

I just emailed ASA to see what they say about implementing this Lukes.

 

May be a few more of us need to ask.

 

Max



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Posted 14 July 2016 - 05:11 AM

:)

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Posted 14 July 2016 - 05:37 PM

:)

Same as Lukas ..... I´m simply skeptical,Max. Waiting for ASA software development during months..months...months.....up-to-date.


Edited by afesan, 14 July 2016 - 05:37 PM.

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#16 lukepower

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Posted 14 July 2016 - 06:36 PM

Personally I found the combination of a Pointing Model with an autoguider to yield very good results, and funny enough they are even faster than an MLPT run :)

The reason is that the mount can track so accurately that the guider settles within seconds, so to get 10x 10 minute frames guided I have an overhead of maybe two minutes. With MLPT I needed that time for the MLPT run - at least.

So bottom of the story: I don't really need MLPT to be usable from other apps.  ;)


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#17 maxmirot

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 08:27 AM

 MLPT takes no real time IMO.  I still needs 15-20 sec for a dither using the guider.

 

No matter. Whenever I contact this ASA , it takes now takes weeks to get a response.

 

That is if I get one... So good luck getting any new.



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Posted 15 July 2016 - 09:53 AM

I also would like MLPT could be be used with other programms- That`s an old idea. I used in old days ACP, CCDautopilot...ans always requested ASA this possibility. No luck. But ¡¡¡¡....we are here once and again.  ;) . Support your idea....again..... Let`s see if a positive answer..


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#19 afesan

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 09:54 AM

BTW: I don´t guide and I never want to come back to autoguiders.. never..ever. :angry: .


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#20 maxmirot

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 03:06 PM

I don't see it coming. We can't engage the company in a dialog. I get very slow responses from ASA by email.

This message board gets fairly rare posts from the company. Beta is being left behind.






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